Supreme God Kabir imparted Tatvgyan to Swami Ramanand Ji.

God Kabir Ji explained spiritual knowledge to Swami Ramanand Ji

Pandit Swami Ramanand Ji was a highly learned scholar, well-versed in the Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita.

Becoming a disciple of Ramanand Ji at the age of five

When Supreme God Kabir (KavirDev) turned five in His divine form (leelamay body), He performed a divine act to uphold the tradition of acquiring a Guru (Guru Maryada). Taking on the appearance of a 2½-year-old child, He lay down on the steps of Panch-Ganga Ghat before dawn, where Swami Ramanand ji would go daily to bathe. Swami Ramanand, who was 104 years old at the time, was renowned for his deep knowledge of the four Vedas and the Holy Gita ji. He had rejected the superficial worship practices of other Pandits in Kashi, advocating worship based on the scriptures, and conducted 52 religious courts across the city. His teachings were grounded in the Holy Bhagavad Gita and Vedas, and he initiated disciples with the 'Om' mantra.

That day, as Swami Ramanand ji went to Panch-Ganga Ghat for his morning bath, Kabir Sahib lay on the steps. In the pre-dawn darkness (Brahm-muhurat), Ramanand ji didn't notice Him, and his sandal accidentally struck Kabir Sahib's head. KavirDev began crying like a child, and Ramanand ji, concerned, bent down to check if the child was hurt. He lovingly lifted Him, and in the process, the garland (kanthi) around Ramanand ji's neck slipped and was placed around Supreme God Kabir's neck. Ramanand ji comforted Him, saying, "Son, chant 'Ram-Ram'. Ram's naam removes all suffering; say Ram-Ram," and placed his hand on Kabir Sahib's head. Kabir Sahib, in the form of a child, calmed down. After bathing, Ramanand ji planned to take the child to his ashram and find His family. However, after finishing his bath, he realized the child had disappeared. Kabir Sahib had returned to His hut, leaving Ramanand ji wondering where the child had gone.

God Kabir Manifesting in Two Forms at Swami Ramanand Ji's Ashram

One day, a disciple of Swami Ramanand ji was delivering a discourse, and Supreme God Kabir attended. The sage was recounting a story from the Vishnu Puran, stating that Lord Vishnu is the creator and sustainer of the entire universe, the Supreme Power who incarnated as Ram and Krishna, and who has no mother or father. After the discourse, God Kabir respectfully asked, "Rishi ji, may I ask a question?" The sage agreed. In front of hundreds of devotees, God Kabir said, "You mentioned that Vishnu is the Supreme Power and that Brahma and Shiv originated from him." The sage affirmed, saying that it was written in Vishnu Puran. God Kabir then calmly responded, "Rishi ji, I ask for clarification, not confrontation. I once heard a discourse from the Shiv Puran, where it was said that Vishnu and Brahma originated from God Shiv."

In Devi Bhagwat's third Skand, it is written that the Goddess is the mother of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiv, stating that these three are mortal and not eternal." Hearing this, the Rishi was left speechless. Angrily, he asked, "Who are you? Whose son are you?" Before Kabir Sahib could respond, other devotees chimed in, saying, "He is the son of the weaver Neeru."

Swami Ramanand ji's disciple, noticing the garland around Kabir Sahib's neck (a sign of Vaishnav initiation), asked, "How come you're wearing a kanthi? Who is your Gurudev?" Kabir Sahib calmly replied, "My Gurudev is the same as yours."

Outraged, the Rishi exclaimed, "You, the son of a low-caste weaver, dare to call my Gurudev yours? Do you even know who my Gurudev is? He is Shri Shri 1008 Pandit Ramanand ji Acharya! He would never initiate someone like you." He then declared, "I will go to Gurudev and tell him how you've insulted him."

Kabir Sahib (Kaviragni) replied, "Alright, go tell him." The Rishi hurriedly approached Swami Ramanand ji, saying, "Gurudev, there is a boy of low caste who has disrespected us. He claims that you are his Gurudev. It's unbearable for us." Ramanand ji, angered, replied, "Bring him to me tomorrow. I will punish him in front of everyone."

Unveiling Swami Ramanand Ji's Hidden Thoughts

The next morning, ten ignorant men apprehended God Kabir and brought Him before Shri Ramanand Ji. To maintain his stance that he never associates with people of lower castes and that Kabir was lying about receiving initiation from him, Ramanand Ji drew a curtain between them. From behind the curtain, Ramanand Ji asked, "Who are you, what is your caste, and which deity or path do you follow?"

Ramanand adhikaar suni, julha ak jagdish || Das Garib bilamb na, taahi navaavat sheesh 407 ||
Ramanand koon guru kahae, tansain nahin milaat || Das Garib darshan bhaye, paede lagi ju laat || 408 ||
Panth chalat thokar lagi, Ramnaam kahi deen || Das Garib kasar nahin, seekh laii prbeen ||409 ||
Aada padda laay kari, Ramanand boojhant || Das Garib kulang chhabi, adhar daak koodant ||410||
Kaun jaati kul panth hai, kaun tumhaara naam || Das Garib adheen gati, bolat hain bali jaanv ||411||

God Kabir answered 

Jaati humaari jagatguru, Parmeshwar pad panth || Das Garib likhati parae, naam Niranjan kant ||412 ||

Ramanand ji said :-

Re baalak sun durbuddhi, ghat math tan aakaar || Das Garib darad lagya, ho bole sirjanhaar || 413 ||
Tum moman ke paalva, julhae ke ghar baas || Das Garib agyaan gati, eta drid vishwaas ||414 ||
Maan badaai chhadi kari, bolau baalak baen || Das Garib adham mukhi, eta tum ghat fain || 415 ||
Tark taloosaen boltae, Ramanand sur gyaan || Das Garib kujaati hai, aakhar neech nidaan || 423||

Supreme God Kabir Ji (KavirDev) politely replied -

Mahke badan khulaas kar, suni swami prbeen || Das Garib mani marae, main aajij aadheen ||428 ||
Main avigat gati saaen parae, chyaari bed saen door || Das Garib dashaun disha, sakal sindh bharpoor ||429 ||
Sakal sindh bharpoor hoon, khaalik humra naam || Das Garib ajaati hoon, taen joon kahya bali jaanv ||430 ||
Jaati paati mere nahin, nahin basti nahin gaam || Das Garib anin gati, nahin humaare naam || 431 ||
Naad bind mere nahin, nahin guda nahin gaat || Das Garib shabd sajaa, nahin kisi ka saath ||432 || Sab sangi bichhru nahin, Aadi ant bahu jaanhi || Das Garib sakal vansu, baahar bheetar maanhi ||433 ||
E swami srshta main, srishti humaarae teer || Das Garib adhar basun, avigat satya Kabir ||434 ||
Pauhmi dharni aakaash main, main vyapak sab thaur || Das Garib na doosra, hum samtul nahin aur ||436 ||
Hum daasan ke daas hain, karta purush kareem || Das Garib avdhoot hum, hum brahmchari seem ||439 ||
Suni Ramanand Ram hum, main baavan narsinh || Das Garib kali kali, humhi se Krishna abhang ||440 ||
Humhi se Indra kuber hain, Brahma Bishnu Mahesh || Das Garib dharam dhvaja, dharni rasaatal shesh ||447 ||
Suni swami sati bhaakhhoon, jhooth na hamrae rinch || Das Garib hum roop bin, aur sakal prpanch ||453 ||
Gota laaun swarg saen, firi paethun paataal || Garibdas dhoondhat firun, heere maanik laal ||476 ||
Is dariya kankar bahut, laal kahin kahin thaav || Garibdas maanik chugaen, hum murjeeva naanv ||477 ||
Murjeeva maanik chugaen, kankar patthar daari || Das Garib dori agam, utro shabd adhaar || 478 ||

If you are asking about my caste, I am the Jagatguru (as written in the Vedas, where God Kabir is described as the Jagatguru who imparts knowledge to the entire creation). Regarding my Panth (spiritual path), Kabir Ji said, "My Panth is that of Parmeshwar (Supreme God). I have come to show the way to Parmeshwar, the Supreme Power — the Creator of countless brahmands (universes) and the Sustainer of all. He is referred to by names such as KavirDev, Kaviragni, etc., in the Vedas."

Kindly understand the distinction between Ish, Ishwar, and Parmeshwar

1. Brahm, also known as Kshar Purush, is referred to as "Ish," and he is the ruler of 21 brahmands.
2. ParBrahm, or Akshar Purush, is called "Ishwar" and governs seven sankh (a vast number) of brahmands.
3. Purna Brahm, also known as Param Akshar Purush, is termed "Parmeshwar" and is the Supreme Being, the Master of countless brahmands.

This is why Kabir Ji explained to Swami Ramanand Ji that His path leads to Parmeshwar, the Supreme God.

Kabir Sahib responded, "I am that Parmeshwar (Supreme God)." Hearing this, Swami Ramanand Ji became agitated and exclaimed, "You are a low-caste person making such grand claims, calling yourself God!" He harshly rebuked Kabir Sahib. Despite this, Kabir Sahib humbly replied, "Gurudev, you are my Guru. Even though you insult me, I still find joy in it. But what I say is the truth: I am Purna Brahm, and there is no doubt." Ramanand Ji, still unsettled, said, "This will take time; you won’t understand easily. Let me finish my prayers first."

Ramanand Ji instructed his disciples, "Have him sit here. I have some religious rituals to complete first. I will deal with him afterward." The ritual involved Ramanand Ji creating an imaginary idol of God Vishnu. He would visualize the entire ceremony: undressing the idol, bathing it with water, dressing it in clean clothes, placing a garland around its neck, applying a tilak, and crowning it. As he imagined this process, he reverently performed each step, including bathing and adorning the idol, but he forgot to place the garland (kanthi).

If the kanthi (garland) is not placed, the ritual remains incomplete, but once the crown is placed, it cannot be removed without interrupting the pooja (worship). Swami Ramanand Ji, realizing he had made a mistake he had never committed before, lamented, "What error have I made today? If I remove the crown, my worship will be disrupted." He decided to try placing the kanthi over the crown, even though he was imagining the idol and the curtain was drawn with Kabir Sahib on the other side. The garland became stuck on the crown and wouldn't move. Ramanand Ji despaired, "What should I do? My entire day is wasted, and my devotional efforts are in vain. Missing even a single ritual causes great distress to someone dedicated to God."

Just as a person would deeply regret if their pocket were picked, true devotees of God have a similar attachment to their rituals. Meanwhile, Kabir Sahib advised, "Swami Ji, loosen the garland and place it around the neck. Then tie it again; you won't need to remove the crown." What crown was Ramanand Ji supposed to remove, and which knot was he meant to untie?

Despite the confusion about the crown and knot, Swami Ramanand Ji threw aside the curtain and, in front of the entire Brahmin community, embraced Kabir Sahib. Ramanand Ji remarked, "Lord, Your body is as soft as cotton, while mine is like stone. There is a barrier of caste and religion between us, but breaking through such artificial barriers for the sake of God is truly meritorious. Seeing God before him, Ramanand Ji transcended caste, religion, and untouchability, focusing solely on divine welfare. This is the essence of being a true Brahmin."

Bolat Ramanandji, hum ghar badaa sukaal || Garibdas pooja karaen, mukut fahi jadi maal ||479 ||
Sewa karoun sambhaal kari, suni swami sur gyaan || Garibdas shir mukut dhari, mala atki jaan ||480 ||
Swami ghundi kholi kari, firi mala gal daar || Garibdas is bhajan koon, jaanat hai kartaar ||481 ||
Dyoudhi padda doori kari, liya kanth lagaay || Garibdas gujri bauhat, badnae badan milaay ||482 ||

Swami Ramanand Ji asked, "Oh Kabir, why did you lie?" Kabir Sahib responded, "What lie, Swami Ji?" Ramanand Ji inquired, "You claimed to have received initiation from me, but when did that happen?" Kabir Sahib explained, "Once, while you were at Panch-Ganga Ghat for a bath, I was lying there. Your sandal hit me on the head, and you told me to say 'Ram-Ram.'" Ramanand Ji recalled, "Yes, I remember that incident, but you were just a small child then." Kabir Sahib asked, "Was I like this?" and appeared as a 2½-year-old child on a nearby cot. Ramanand Ji looked back and forth in disbelief, rubbing his eyes to ensure he wasn't mistaken. As he watched, the smaller form of Kabir Sahib merged back into his 5-year-old self, leaving only the older form of Kabir Sahib standing there.

Manki pooja tum lakhi, mukut maal parbesh || Garibdas gati ko lakahe, kaun varan kya bhesh ||483 ||
Yeh tau tum shiksha dai, maani lai manmor || Garibdas komal purush, humra badan kathor ||484|| 

Ramanand Ji then said, "My doubt is resolved. Oh Supreme God, how can we recognize you when you appear in such a guise and attire? We ignorant beings argued with you and now realize our mistake. Please forgive us, Supreme God KavirDev. I am but your humble and ignorant servant."

Swami Ramanand Ji’s Journey to Satlok

Suni bachchha main swarg ki, kaisaen chhandau reeti || Garibdas gudri lagi, janam jaat hai beet|| 486 || Chyaari mukti baikunth main, jin ki morae chaah || Garibdas ghar agam ki, kaisaen paaun thaah ||487 || Hem roop jahaan dharni hai, rattan jade bauh shobh || Garibdas baikunth koon, tan man humra lobh ||488 || Shankh chakr gada padam hain, mohan madan murari || Garibdas murli bajae, suraglok darbari ||489 || Doodhoun ki nadiyaan bagaen, set vriksh subhaan || Garibdas mandal mukti, surgapur asthaan || 490 || Rattan jadaau manushya hain, gan gandharv sab dev || Garibdas us dhaam ki, kaisaen chhadoon sev ||491 || Rig yaju sam atharvan, gaavaen chaaraun ved || Garibdas ghar agam ki, kaisaen jaano bhed || 492 || Chyaari mukti chitvan lagi, kaisaen banchoo taahi || Garibdas guptargati, humkun dhyau samjhaay || 493 || Surag lok baikunth hai, yaasaen parae na aur || Garibdas shatshaastr, chyaari bedki daur || 494 || Chyaari bed gaavaen tisaen, surnar muni milaap || Garibdas dhruv por jis, miti gaye teenu taap || 495 || Prhlaad gaye tis lokkun, surga puri samool || Garibdas hari bhakti ki, main banchat hoon dhool || 496 || Bindravan gaye tis lokkun, surga puri samool || Garibdas us mukti koon, kaisaen jaaun bhool || 497 || Naarad Brahma tis rataen, gaavaen shesh ganesh || Garibdas baikunth saen, aur parae ko desh ||498 || Sahans athaasi jis japaen, aur teteesoun sev || Garibdas jaasaen parae, aur kaun hai Dev ||499 || Suni swami nij mool gati, kahi samjhaaun tohi || Garibdas bhagwan koo, raakhya jagat samohi || 500 || Teeni lok ke jeev sab, vishay vaas bharmaay || Garibdas humkoon japaen, tiskoon dhaam dikhaay || 501 || Jo dekhaega dhaam koo, so jaanat hai mujh || Garibdas tosaen kahoon, suni gayatri gujh || 502 || Krishna Vishnu bhagwan koo, jahdaaye hain jeev || Garibdas trilok main, Kaal karm shir sheev || 503 || Suni swami tosaen kahoon, agam deep ki sael || Garibdas poothe pare, pustak lade bael || 504 || Pauhmi dharni akaash thambh, chalsi chandar soor || Garibdas raj birajki, kahaan rahaegi dhoor || 505 || Tarayan trilok sab, chalsi Indra kuber || Garibdas sab jaat hain, surag patal sumer || 506 || Chyaari mukti baikuth bat, fanaa hua kai baar || Garibdas alap roop magh, kya jaanaen sansaar || 507 || Kahau swami kit rahauge, chauda bhuvan bihand || Garibdas beejak kahya, chalat praan aur pind ||508 || Sun swami ek shakti hai, ardhangi Omkaar || Garibdas beejak tahaan, anant lok singhaar || 509 || Jaise ka taisa rahae, parlo fanaa praan || Garibdas us shakti koon, baar baar kurbaan || 510 || Koti Indra Brahma jahaan, koti Krishna kailaas || Garibdas Shiv koti hain, karau kaunki aash || 511 || Koti Vishnu jahaan basat hain, us shakti ke dhaam || Garibdas gul bauhat hain, alaf bast nihkaam || 512 || Shiv shakti jaasae hue, anant koti avatar ||  Garibdas us alafkoon, lakae so hoye kartaar || 513 || Alaf humaara roop hai, dam dehi nahin dant || Garibdas gulsain parae, chalna hai bin panth ||514 || Bina panth us kantkae, dhaam chalan hai mor || Garibdas gati na kisi, sankh surag par dor || 515 || Sankh suragpar hum basaen, suni swami yeh saen || Garibdas hum alaf hain, yauh gul fokat faen || 516 || Jo tae kahya sau main lahya, bin dekhae nahin dheej || Garibdas swami kahae, kahaan alaf vau beej ||517 || Anant koti brahmand fan, anant koti udgaar || Garibdas swami kahae, kahaan alaf deedar || 518 || Had behad kahin na kahin, na kahin tharpi thaur || Garibdas nij brahmki, kaun dhaam vah paur ||519 || Chal swami sar par chalaen, gang teer sun gyaan || Garibdas baikunth bat, koti koti ghat dhyaan ||520 || Tahaan koti vaikunth hain, nak sarvar sangeet || Garibdas swami sunae, jaat anant jug beet ||521 || Praan pind purmain dhasau, gaye Ramanand koti || Garibdas sar suragmaen, rahau shabdki ot || 522 || Tahaan vahaan chit chakrit bhya, dekhi fajal darbaar || Garibdas sijda kiya, hum paaye deedaar ||523 || Tum swami main baal buddhi, bharm karm kiye naash || Garibdas nij Brahm tum, humrae drid vishwaas ||524 || Sunn-besunn saen tum parae, uraen se humrae teer || Garibdas sarbangmaen, avigat purush Kabir || 525 || Koti koti sijde karaen, koti koti pranaam || Garibdas anhad adhar, hum parsaen tum dhaam || 526 || Suni swami ek gal gujh, til taari pal jori || Garibdas sar gagan main, suraj anant karori || 527 || Shahar amaan anantpur, rimjhim rimjhim hoye || Garibdas us nagar ka, maram na janae koye ||528 || Suni swami kaisaen lakhau, kahi samjhaaun tohi || Garibdas bin par udain, tan man sheesh na hoye ||529 || Ravanpuri ek chakra hai, tahaan dhanjay baay || Garibdas jeete janm, yaakun let samaay || 530 || Aasan padam lagaaykar, bhirang naad ko khaenchi || Garibdas achvan karae, devdutt ko echi ||531 || Kaali un kuleen rang, jaakae do fun dhaar || Garibdas kurambh shir, taas kare ud gaar || 532 || Chishmein laal gulaal rang, teeni girah nabh pench || Garibdas vah naagni koon, haune na deve rech || 533 || Kumbhak rechak sab karae, un karat udgaar || Garibdas us naagni koon, jeetae koi khilaar || 534 || Kumbh bharae rechak karae, fir tutat hai paun || Garibdas gagan mandal, nahin hot hai raun || 535 || Aage ghaati band hai, ingla-pingla doye || Garibdas sushman khule, taas milaava hoye || 536 || Jyunka tyunhi baithi raho, taji aasan sab jog || Garibdas pal beech pad, sarv sael sab bhog ||547 || Koti koti baikunth hain, koti koti Shiv shesh || Garibdas us dhaammain, Brahma koti naresh ||553 || Avadan amaanpur, chali swami tahaan chaal || Garibdas parlo anant, bauhri na jhapaen Kaal || 554 || Amar cheer tahaan pahri hai, amar hans sukh dhaam || Garibdas bhojan ajar, chal swami nijdhaam ||555 || Bolat Ramanandji, sun Kabir Kartaar || Garibdas sab roopmain, tumhi bolan haar ||556 || Tum Sahib tum sant hau, tum Satguru tum hans || Garibdas tum roop bin aur na dooja ans || 557 || Main bhagta mukta bhya, kiya karm kund naash || Garibdas avigat mile, meti man ki baas ||558 || Dohoon thaur hai ek too, bhya ek se doye || Garibdas hum kaarnae, utre hain magh joye ||559 || Goshti Ramanandsaen, Kashi nagar manjhaar || Garibdas jind peerke, hum paaye deedar || 562 || Bolae Ramanand ji, sunau Kabir subhaan || Garibdas mukta bhaye, udhre pind aru praan ||567 ||

Kabir Sahib (KavirDev / God Kabir) asked Swami Ramanand ji, "Swami ji, what form of worship do you practice?" Swami Ramanand ji replied, "I follow the teachings of the Vedas and Bhagavad Gita." Kabir Sahib then asked, "Where will this worship lead you?" Ramanand ji responded, "I will go to heaven." Supreme God Kabir inquired, "And what will you do in heaven, oh benefactor?" Ramanand ji answered, "I will meet my beloved Lord Vishnu daily, and there are rivers of milk there; no worries or tension. I will live happily." Kabir Sahib then asked, "But Swami ji, how long will you remain in heaven?" (Being knowledgeable, Ramanand ji grasped the question immediately.)

Swami Ramanand ji replied, "I will live in heaven as long as my accumulated bhakti allows."

Kabir Sahib then asked, "And where will you go after that?"

Ramanand ji said, "Only God knows where, or in what form, I will be reborn based on my deeds."

Kabir Sahib said, "Swami ji, you've followed this path of worship countless times, but it won't lead to liberation. By worshipping Shri Vishnu, you aim to go to heaven, but even those who reach Brahmlok through Brahm-worship remain trapped in the cycle of birth and death. One day, Mahaswarg (the great heaven in Brahmlok) will also be destroyed, as stated in Gita Chapter 8 Shlok 16."

Swami Ramanand ji, being a learned scholar with the verses at his fingertips, acknowledged, "You are right; this is indeed written."

Kabir Sahib then asked, "Gurudev, tell me, where will you live after that?" Ramanand ji was compelled to reflect deeply.

Supreme God Kabir ji asked, "Swami ji, who narrated the knowledge of Gita ji?"

Swami Ramanand ji replied, "Shri Krishna ji did."

Kabir ji then said, "Swami ji, in the Sanskshipt Mahabharat (Khand Two, page 1531 in the old edition and 667 in the new), it is written that Shri Krishna ji told Arjun, 'I no longer remember the knowledge of Gita; I cannot narrate it again.'" Supreme God Kabir provided all the necessary evidence.

In Gita Chapter 8, Verse 13, the giver of the knowledge (Brahm) states:

Om′, iti, ekaaksharam′, Brahm, vyaharan′, mam′, anusmaran′, YaH, pryati, tyajan′, deham′, saH, yati, parmam′, gatim′ ||13||

Translation: The narrator of Gita, Brahm i.e. Kaal, is saying that (mam Brahm) my, Brahm's (iti) this (Om ekaaksharam ) is one syllable Om / ॐ (vyaaharan ) by chanting (anusmaran ) for doing sumiran3 (yaH) a worshipper who (tyajan deham ) until leaving the body i.e until the last breath (pryaati) does sumiran sadhna (saH) only that worshipper my (parmaam gatim ) supreme salvation (yaati) attains.

Translation: The narrator of the Gita, Brahm (Kaal), is stating that for doing my sumiran (chanting), there is only one syllable, "Om" (ॐ). A worshipper who continues this sumiran practice until their last breath will attain my supreme salvation.

The implied meaning is that by entering Shri Krishna Ji's body, Brahm (Jyoti Niranjan Kaal), who has a thousand arms, says that a worshipper who chants Om naam and worships me (Brahm) until death, attains the benefits granted by me. There is no other mantra for my worship.

In Gita Chapter 8 verses 5, 7, and 13, the giver of the Gita's knowledge explains that worshiping by chanting Om (ॐ) until the last breath leads to union with Him. Therefore, while fighting, also remember to chant Om naam. This is because a battle involves loud noise, and chanting Om naam loudly ensures both remembrance and participation in the battle.

In Gita Chapter 8, Verse 6, it is stated that in the final moments, a person goes to the deity they remember as they leave their body. In Gita Chapter 8, Verses 8 to 10, the giver of the Gita speaks about Purna Parmatma (Supreme Divine God Parmeshwar or Purna Brahm) apart from Brahm. If someone leaves their body while performing sadhna of this Purna Parmatma, they go to that Supreme God alone. Only by Him can one attain complete salvation, Satlok, and supreme peace. Therefore, seek refuge in this Supreme God (Gita Chapter 18, Verses 62-66 and Chapter 15, Verse 4). I (Brahm, the narrator of the Gita) am also in His refuge.

Upon examining all the evidence, Ramanand ji, astonished, bit his fingers in disbelief and acknowledged the truth. He said, "Son, you are speaking accurately according to the scriptures. No one has ever imparted such knowledge to us before. What should we do?"

Kabir Sahib replied that the information is contained in the Holy Gita. He advised reading Chapter 8, Verses 8, 9, and 10, as well as Chapter 18, Verse 62.

The narrator of the Holy Gita and the Vedas, Brahm (Kaal), advises Arjun to seek refuge in that Supreme God to attain immortality. In Chapter 4, Verse 34 of the Gita, he instructs to search for saints who know the ultimate truth about God. Show them respect through prostration and treat them with courtesy and honesty. Once these enlightened saints are pleased, request initiation (naam) from them. By doing so, you will escape the cycle of rebirth and death.

In the Holy Gita, Chapter 15, Verses 1 to 4, it describes the world as an inverted tree. The root of this tree is Aadi Purush, the Eternal God, while the branches represent the three gunas: Rajgun (Brahma), Satgun (Vishnu), and Tamgun (Shiv). Brahm (Kaal) admits that he does not possess full knowledge of this world tree or the entire creation. For complete understanding, seek out a Tatvdarshi saint (Gita, Chapter 4, Verse 34). Such a saint will provide the true knowledge of creation and the divine hierarchy. Furthermore, one should seek the Supreme God, the Param Pad Parmeshwar, whose refuge ensures liberation from rebirth and death. Brahm (Kaal) himself is also in the refuge of this Supreme God. Therefore, worship that Supreme God to attain ultimate salvation.

Swami Ramanand ji said, "This is exactly what is written, but I have never heard of Satlok before, so I find it hard to believe." Kabir Sahib asked, "How do you practice your worship?" Swami Ramanand ji replied, "I have perfected my body through yoga, passing through lotuses, reaching Trikuti (trivaini)." Kabir Sahib responded, "You may reach Trivaini once." Ramanand ji then entered a meditative state, as was his daily practice.

Kabir Sahib said, "The Brahmrandhra ahead will not open with your current naam. Only Satnaam can open this Brahmrandhra." Kabir Sahib then uttered Satnaam through his breaths, and the door opened. He continued, "Now I will show you Kaal, the God you refer to as formless, who in the Gita says, 'I will devour everyone, Arjun! I never grant audience or appear before anyone.' Now, I will reveal Kaal before you."

Kabir Sahib first revealed Brahm (Kaal) in the secret places of Brahmlok within one brahmand, where he appeared in the forms of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiv. Afterward, they exited through the door that leads beyond Brahmlok and proceeded to the twenty-first brahmand. Brahm (Kaal) keeps a watchful eye on the path beyond Brahmlok, which is situated above Jata Kundali Sarovar (lake), ensuring that no one escapes. The last lok within the twenty-one brahmands is Kaal-Brahm's (Kshar Purush) personal domain, where he sits in his true, fearsome form. Kabir Sahib said, "See, this is your formless God, whom you believe to be without shape."

(The yogis who performed sadhna using 'Om' naam, as prescribed by the Vedas, never achieved the Supreme God. They gained supernatural powers, reached heaven, and the great heaven, but eventually became trapped in the cycle of birth, even becoming animals. As a result, everyone came to believe that God is formless, though the Vedas clearly state that God is indeed in form.)

As they approached closer to Kaal, Kabir Sahib uttered His Satnaam along with Saarnaam. Instantly, Kaal's head bowed down. Above Kaal's head lies the door that leads to Satlok, the realm of ParBrahm. After crossing this, the journey continues through a Bhanvar cave (there is also a Bhanvar cave in Kaal's lok). Kabir Sahib's flawless devotees (hans) ascend by stepping on Kaal's head, using him as a stairway. After passing through the lok of ParBrahm, Kabir Sahib guided the soul of Shri Ramanand ji to Satlok, where another Bhanvar cave exists.

Upon reaching Satlok, Shri Ramanand ji witnessed Kabir Sahib (KavirDev) in His true form. The brightness of Kabir Sahib was so immense that even a single hair follicle emitted more light than crore suns and moons combined, though without any heat. There, Kabir Sahib began moving a whisk over His own alternate form. Ramanand ji initially thought that the radiant figure on the throne was God and that Kabir Sahib, standing by, was a servant. However, he noticed that the place itself was unlike any other, filled with divine splendor.

As Ramanand ji pondered this, the radiant form of God rose from the throne, and Supreme God Kabir, in the form of a five-year-old child, took the seat. The glowing form of Kabir began to move the whisk over the child form of Kabir Sahib. Then, the effulgent form merged into the child form, leaving only the child Kabir on the throne, while the whisk continued moving on its own. At that moment, Ramanand ji’s soul was sent back to his body. When his meditation ended, he saw Kabir Sahib sitting in front of him, still in the form of a five-year-old child. Swami Ramanand ji, overwhelmed, said:

Tahaan vahaan chit chakrit bhya, dekhi fajal darbaar || Garibdas sijda kiya, hum paaye deedaar ||523 ||
Tum swami main baal buddhi, bharm karm kiye naash || Garibdas nij Brahm tum, humrae drid vishwaas || 524 ||
Sunn-besunn saen tum parae, uraen se humre teer || Garibdas sarbangmain, avigat Purush Kabir || 525 ||
Koti koti sijde karaen, koti koti pranaam || Garibdas anhad adhar, hum parsaen tum dhaam || 526 ||
Bolat Ramanandji, sun Kabir kartaar || Garibdas sab roopmein, tumhin bolan haar || 556 ||
Tum Sahib tum sant hau, tum Satguru tum hans || Garibdas tum roop bin, aur na dooja ans ||557 ||
Main bhagta mukta bhya, kiya karm kund naash || Garibdas avigat mile, meti man ki baas ||558 ||
Dohoon thaur hai ek too, bhya ek se doye || Garibdas hum kaarnae, utre hain magh joye || 559 ||
Bolat Ramanand ji, sun Kabir kartaar || Garibdas sab roop mein, tu hi bolanhaar ||

Ramanand Ji exclaimed, "O Supreme God! Oh Kabir, the Creator of all! You alone are the Omnipresent, Complete God."

Dahoon thaur hai ek tu, bhya ek se do | Garibdas hum kaarne, aaye ho mag jo ||

"Oh Supreme God Kabir! You exist both in Satlok and here before me. You have manifested in two forms from one, coming here for the sake of us insignificant beings."

Main bhakta mukta bhya, karm kund bhaye naash | Garibdas avigat mile, mit gai man ki baans ||

Ramanand Ji, a 104-year-old sage, spoke to the 5-year-old Supreme God Kabir, saying, "I, your humble servant, have attained liberation, and the wandering of my mind has ceased. I have witnessed the true form of God. Oh Complete God Kabir Sahib (KavirDev), all the four Holy Vedas and the Holy Gita sing only your praises." Supreme God Kabir (KavirDev) Himself affirmed this truth, saying –

Ved humaara bhed hai, main vedon mein naahin | Jis ved se main milu, ved jaante naahin ||

The essence is that all four Holy Vedas contain knowledge of the Supreme God, but the prescribed way of worship only reaches up to Brahm (Jyoti Niranjan). For understanding the worship of the Supreme God Kabir (KavirDev) and attaining true spiritual knowledge (Tatvgyan), the Holy Vedas and the Holy Gita state that only a Tatvdarshi saint can provide this knowledge. Such a saint is either God Himself or His true representative. By receiving initiation (updesh) from this Tatvdarshi saint, one can achieve complete salvation and supreme peace.